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  Aus Bethel reducing numbers dramatically.

  by joey jojo in

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  sorry if this is old news but just heard that there will only be about 75 people left at sydney bethel after layoffs.

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  Hail the the-o-cracy ever decreasing!
  Wondrous contraction is now taking place!
  
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  2015--10/19-and10/29-BOEs!

  by Atlantis in

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  disregard if already posted.. .. 2015, 10/19/boe.

  .. click the green download button.. re: service meeting part for week of december 21, 2015 .

  http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/vistoa4.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I think that one sentence needs some proofreading. This sounds more like it:
  

  However, it must be acknowledged that the Kingdom work is expanding invisibly at an accelerated pace and the Governing Body can only do so much with the invisibly present funds at their disposal.
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  Special Pioneer Couple Living at a Kingdom Hall In Miami FL, get the dreaded Letter

  by James Jack in

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  just got a phone call from an older sister saying that a couple that got re-assigned from bethel 4 years ago to live at their kh apartment as special pioneers, just received a letter saying "as of january 2016, your special pioneer assignment will be discontinued".. they live in a south miami kh(snapper creek congregation).. this couple had only served in bethel for 15 years before they were sent out into the special pioneer work.

  they are now in their mid 50's and the sister said that they have to find part time jobs to support themselves.. the older sister (does not have a pc or internet), says that the couple are just devastated!

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  I'm so glad that I'm miles and years away from all the bethel and pioneer crap.

  There are probably plenty of my old "friends" that are suffering from all these cuts. I hope they wake up, get out, and get on with life like I was able to.
  
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  Faith in the Flood,-- a Dud.

  by prologos in

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  for the next two weeks, wt will attempt to lay the basis for their imitation "faith" by discussing the "imitate their faith" book, chapter on the flood.

  a golden opportunity to share faith strengthening details with your believing friends.

  do not miss it!.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Here's something from an earlier thread of mine.
  

  In conversation, a friend was telling me how he knows he's supposed to preach to his workmates, but he's not comfortable doing it. Rather than twisting his arm to preach, I gave him the perfect reason not to preach. I explained, "Well, I learned that you have to be really careful, because you have to work with them every day. And you don't want to be in front of a group of coworkers when one of them asks the 'kangaroo question.'"

  Which, of course, led him to ask, "Kangaroo question? What's that?"

  Me, playing coy, "Oh, I think I shouldn't have mentioned that." Of course, that statement just made him even more curious. So then I explained how it was not uncommon for JWs to get asked questions about the flood that we couldn't answer. 'Kangaroo question' was how kangaroos got from Australia to Noah's ark, then from Turkey back to Australia after the flood. Then he was really confounded trying to solve this riddle. I had to tell him that there was no solution to that, nor to a lot of other questions that I hope he never gets asked. Since I was the ex-bethelite, he wanted to know what to do with such a question. I explained, "Since there is nothing helpful published, if you get asked a question like that at the door, you have to say that you'll go and research the question... but you never go back to their door. If you get asked by a workmate where you can't run away, you have to say that Noah's flood is a parable and not literal."

  Here's another thread about a terrible 1969 flood article failure:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/183719/from-noahs-ark-australia-awake-jan-8-1969-pp-5-8
  
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  November WT God's View Of War

  by JW_Rogue in

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  did anybody else read this article and just think wth?.

  sometimes god approves of war.. sometimes god doesn't approve of war.. when the israelites fought battles and won it was because god blessed them.. when they lost it was because god had not blessed them.. sometimes god fights for oppressed ones.. sometimes they must wait and have faith.. it is so clear that the bible contradicts itself on this issue and that the nation of israel had a totally different view of god than the early christians.

  it is also clear that the nation of israel was highly superstitious and would attribute every battle's outcome to the whims of a higher power.

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  Maybe that's why armageddon hasn't come. Gog of Magog got his hands on some iron war chariots... and a musket.

  Bronze Age desert gods don't have access to iron or gunpowder.
  
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  ANNOUNCEMENT CLIP ...2015 Annual meeting Sam Herd confirming what we knew a month ago about slow down and halt of worldwide construction

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_h68ktwpim&feature=youtu.be.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It's not like armageddon is ever coming to rescue WT Corp from their own stupidity.

  After the big cash grab from the congregation accounts earlier, donations probably dropped off really quickly. Congregations were supposed to keep sending in perpetual payments to keep paying a mortgage on the local Hall forever. I've been in enough congregations where "donation fatigue" takes hold. The "friends" make big pledges and pay them for a couple of months, but then the reality of their overstretched budget has them reducing to less than their pledge, and it keeps shrinking.

  Probably after Lett went on the broadcast to plead for cash, they got plenty of blowback for looking like money-grabbing TV evangelists. It would make the GB and WT Corporation look bad to constantly be begging for cash. So now Herd is trotted out to announce the cuts and say that it's not because of a lack of financial support.

  What can publishers think of this? "Oh good, WT isn't short on cash, and they're cutting expenses on the organization level. Now I don't have to feel obligated to keep donating as much as I have been. Why should I keep paying the same money now that I'm getting less magazines and all this cost-cutting? My family needs a vacation! That's where I'll earmark my money instead."

  I think when Herd spoke of the growth and expansion in the organization, he was referring to the ever-increasing number of anointed partakers.
  
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  Annual Meeting 2015 Rant

  by freemindfade in

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  well i didn't watch all of it, but i did watch a good deal.

  it reminded me of the times i actually physically attended in the past.

  lets start with am3.

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  It was very telling to hear him say how much he loved the name "digging for spiritual gems" or whatever the hell its called.

  "Digging for WT spiritual gems" translation:

  
  
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  This takes the cake

  by Sour Grapes in

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  today during the public talk the speaker said that satan was behind the new modern phones, which are like mini computers, so that the world would have easy access to pornography..

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  That speaker hasn't been keeping up with WT nulite. Current troof is that Jehovah is behind the new modern phones, computers, and Internet so that people can access the WT website and watch videos of the chubby, balding GB members beg for money.
  
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  Hello everyone!

  by Planetsmashers in

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  2. friends

  ive been lurking for a while and finally got around to registering.

  about me: i was essentially born in & indoctrinated from youth.

  i was always a borderline "bad association" type because i always did the minimum and always disagreed with much of what was taught; even when i was a child.. luckily for me my father was never a jw so i never had to endure the male head pressure.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Hello and welcome!

  I essentially left to save my life from suicide and end my years of misery and depression.

  Pete: Funny how it is that after you stop attending weekly funeral services (ie meetings), suddenly life seems a whole lot brighter.

  I remember that feeling.
  
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  October 14, 2015 BOE

  by wifibandit in

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  october 14, 2015 .

  re: signs announcing meeting times .

  https://infotomb.com//38v6n.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Where my wife attends, they have the mid-week meeting on Friday. Maybe they should just call it 'not-Sunday' meeting.

  I've been in a congregation that had their Sunday meeting on Saturday. So they would have 2 "not-Sunday" meetings.

  I'd suggest that they call them "This Meeting" and "That Meeting".